Comments on: Steal this Product Idea #3: Get Together http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/ Figurin' it out... Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Gabrieli http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-229 Daniel Gabrieli Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:06:00 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-229 I am getting my Perl together to do some regular expressions. Then I'll learn statistical analysis and generate some algorithms. I'll collaborate with a web guy to get users to input data from their browsers and a DB person to organize and store it. Then after all that hard work we will have solved the problem of boredom that plagues so many city dwellers.... I like craigslist- can't we just tap into that somehow? I am getting my Perl together to do some regular expressions. Then I’ll learn statistical analysis and generate some algorithms. I’ll collaborate with a web guy to get users to input data from their browsers and a DB person to organize and store it. Then after all that hard work we will have solved the problem of boredom that plagues so many city dwellers….

I like craigslist- can’t we just tap into that somehow?

]]> By: Daniel Gabrieli http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-364 Daniel Gabrieli Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:06:00 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-364 I am getting my Perl together to do some regular expressions. Then I'll learn statistical analysis and generate some algorithms. I'll collaborate with a web guy to get users to input data from their browsers and a DB person to organize and store it. Then after all that hard work we will have solved the problem of boredom that plagues so many city dwellers.... I like craigslist- can't we just tap into that somehow? I am getting my Perl together to do some regular expressions. Then I’ll learn statistical analysis and generate some algorithms. I’ll collaborate with a web guy to get users to input data from their browsers and a DB person to organize and store it. Then after all that hard work we will have solved the problem of boredom that plagues so many city dwellers….

I like craigslist- can’t we just tap into that somehow?

]]> By: amitklein http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-228 amitklein Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:54:10 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-228 hi Ankesh,<br>Thanks for your comment. The differences between the steps 1-3 above and meetup is the focus. From what I've seen meetup wants to create communities, typically in a drinks/classroom type setting. gttgthr would encourage new relationships through a one off or set of closely related activities. Not just sitting and talking but actually doing something.<br><br>Certainly getting the venues to offer discounts would require strong local sales forces which has been very tough to do (Yelp is a notable exception).<br><br>As your correctly mentioned I think the site would be closer to eventbrite then meetup. In the end, as you correctly mentioned, the site would be difficult to monetize and exploring the friend of friend relationships is still too creepy for most people.<br><br>I like the idea that you have around creating monetizable events, though that takes some of the fun out of it. <br><br>Thanks again hi Ankesh,
Thanks for your comment. The differences between the steps 1-3 above and meetup is the focus. From what I've seen meetup wants to create communities, typically in a drinks/classroom type setting. gttgthr would encourage new relationships through a one off or set of closely related activities. Not just sitting and talking but actually doing something.

Certainly getting the venues to offer discounts would require strong local sales forces which has been very tough to do (Yelp is a notable exception).

As your correctly mentioned I think the site would be closer to eventbrite then meetup. In the end, as you correctly mentioned, the site would be difficult to monetize and exploring the friend of friend relationships is still too creepy for most people.

I like the idea that you have around creating monetizable events, though that takes some of the fun out of it.

Thanks again

]]> By: amitklein http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-227 amitklein Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:34:45 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-227 hey dan, thanks for the comment, i think this is a really cool idea. generally the products ive seen be successful are those who do one thing and do them really really well. my inner product manager is telling me that we would have to cut what you are describing down to a single core idea. for instance your idea focused solely on entertainment is very cool: “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance." i like it, you should do it :) hey dan, thanks for the comment, i think this is a really cool idea. generally the products ive seen be successful are those who do one thing and do them really really well. my inner product manager is telling me that we would have to cut what you are describing down to a single core idea. for instance your idea focused solely on entertainment is very cool: “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance.” i like it, you should do it :)

]]> By: amitklein http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-363 amitklein Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:54:00 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-363 hi Ankesh, Thanks for your comment. The differences between the steps 1-3 above and meetup is the focus. From what I've seen meetup wants to create communities, typically in a drinks/classroom type setting. gttgthr would encourage new relationships through a one off or set of closely related activities. Not just sitting and talking but actually doing something. Certainly getting the venues to offer discounts would require strong local sales forces which has been very tough to do (Yelp is a notable exception). As your correctly mentioned I think the site would be closer to eventbrite then meetup. In the end, as you correctly mentioned, the site would be difficult to monetize and exploring the friend of friend relationships is still too creepy for most people. I like the idea that you have around creating monetizable events, though that takes some of the fun out of it. Thanks again hi Ankesh,
Thanks for your comment. The differences between the steps 1-3 above and meetup is the focus. From what I’ve seen meetup wants to create communities, typically in a drinks/classroom type setting. gttgthr would encourage new relationships through a one off or set of closely related activities. Not just sitting and talking but actually doing something.

Certainly getting the venues to offer discounts would require strong local sales forces which has been very tough to do (Yelp is a notable exception).

As your correctly mentioned I think the site would be closer to eventbrite then meetup. In the end, as you correctly mentioned, the site would be difficult to monetize and exploring the friend of friend relationships is still too creepy for most people.

I like the idea that you have around creating monetizable events, though that takes some of the fun out of it.

Thanks again

]]> By: amitklein http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-362 amitklein Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:34:00 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-362 hey dan, thanks for the comment, i think this is a really cool idea. generally the products ive seen be successful are those who do one thing and do them really really well. my inner product manager is telling me that we would have to cut what you are describing down to a single core idea. for instance your idea focused solely on entertainment is very cool: “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance." i like it, you should do it :) hey dan, thanks for the comment, i think this is a really cool idea. generally the products ive seen be successful are those who do one thing and do them really really well. my inner product manager is telling me that we would have to cut what you are describing down to a single core idea. for instance your idea focused solely on entertainment is very cool: “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance.” i like it, you should do it :)

]]> By: Ankesh Kothari http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-226 Ankesh Kothari Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:46:18 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-226 Isn't steps 1,2 and 3 = <a href="http://meetup.com" rel="nofollow">meetup.com</a> ? <br>They've found it hard to monetize.<br><br>Meetup also shows the problem with steps 5 and 6. Getting folks who will organize the get togethers and events is pretty hard. Most meetup groups die after 1-2 get togethers.<br><br>Grouping ideas work only if they have a viable option of making money attached to it. Thats why Groupon is a success. And Ning had to get rid of their free plans. <br><br>So if you combine your 6 steps with a payment gateway idea like <a href="http://eventbrite.com" rel="nofollow">eventbrite.com</a> or maybe even <a href="http://wepay.com" rel="nofollow">wepay.com</a> - then it could get exciting. Otherwise, I don't see the incentives from end-user point of view.<br><br>So it could be a website where people come together to organize an event. They earn points based on the effort they put in to the event. The event has to make money. And this money is distributed based on the points earned. (The idea has some wrinkles of leadership. And accountability - who assigns the points for tasks done? And "too many cooks spoiling the broth" phenomenon. But I don't think these are insurmountable problems and should be solvable by someone smart and motivated to build such an idea.) Isn't steps 1,2 and 3 = meetup.com ?
They've found it hard to monetize.

Meetup also shows the problem with steps 5 and 6. Getting folks who will organize the get togethers and events is pretty hard. Most meetup groups die after 1-2 get togethers.

Grouping ideas work only if they have a viable option of making money attached to it. Thats why Groupon is a success. And Ning had to get rid of their free plans.

So if you combine your 6 steps with a payment gateway idea like eventbrite.com or maybe even wepay.com – then it could get exciting. Otherwise, I don't see the incentives from end-user point of view.

So it could be a website where people come together to organize an event. They earn points based on the effort they put in to the event. The event has to make money. And this money is distributed based on the points earned. (The idea has some wrinkles of leadership. And accountability – who assigns the points for tasks done? And “too many cooks spoiling the broth” phenomenon. But I don't think these are insurmountable problems and should be solvable by someone smart and motivated to build such an idea.)

]]> By: Ankesh Kothari http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-361 Ankesh Kothari Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:46:00 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-361 Isn't steps 1,2 and 3 = meetup.com ? They've found it hard to monetize. Meetup also shows the problem with steps 5 and 6. Getting folks who will organize the get togethers and events is pretty hard. Most meetup groups die after 1-2 get togethers. Grouping ideas work only if they have a viable option of making money attached to it. Thats why Groupon is a success. And Ning had to get rid of their free plans. So if you combine your 6 steps with a payment gateway idea like eventbrite.com or maybe even wepay.com - then it could get exciting. Otherwise, I don't see the incentives from end-user point of view. So it could be a website where people come together to organize an event. They earn points based on the effort they put in to the event. The event has to make money. And this money is distributed based on the points earned. (The idea has some wrinkles of leadership. And accountability - who assigns the points for tasks done? And "too many cooks spoiling the broth" phenomenon. But I don't think these are insurmountable problems and should be solvable by someone smart and motivated to build such an idea.) Isn’t steps 1,2 and 3 = meetup.com ?
They’ve found it hard to monetize.

Meetup also shows the problem with steps 5 and 6. Getting folks who will organize the get togethers and events is pretty hard. Most meetup groups die after 1-2 get togethers.

Grouping ideas work only if they have a viable option of making money attached to it. Thats why Groupon is a success. And Ning had to get rid of their free plans.

So if you combine your 6 steps with a payment gateway idea like eventbrite.com or maybe even wepay.com – then it could get exciting. Otherwise, I don’t see the incentives from end-user point of view.

So it could be a website where people come together to organize an event. They earn points based on the effort they put in to the event. The event has to make money. And this money is distributed based on the points earned. (The idea has some wrinkles of leadership. And accountability – who assigns the points for tasks done? And “too many cooks spoiling the broth” phenomenon. But I don’t think these are insurmountable problems and should be solvable by someone smart and motivated to build such an idea.)

]]> By: amit http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-225 amit Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:10:38 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-225 hey dan, thanks for the comment, i think this is a really cool idea. generally the products ive seen be successful are those who do one thing and do them really really well. my inner product manager is telling me that we would have to cut what you are describing down to a single core idea. for instance your idea focused solely on entertainment is very cool: “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance." i like it, you should do it :) hey dan, thanks for the comment, i think this is a really cool idea. generally the products ive seen be successful are those who do one thing and do them really really well. my inner product manager is telling me that we would have to cut what you are describing down to a single core idea. for instance your idea focused solely on entertainment is very cool: “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance.” i like it, you should do it :)

]]> By: Daniel Gabrieli http://amitklein.com/2010/07/18/steal-this-product-idea-3-get-together/#comment-224 Daniel Gabrieli Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:23:59 +0000 http://amitklein.com/?p=911#comment-224 Time. There is no app mentioned above to help manage and organize time. There is a difference between saying, "I want to see a movie this week" and "I want to see a movie tonight" and "I want to see a movie right now." Some kind of dynamic calendar app would be good. <br><br>Scope and flexibility. Allow for people to create non-specific events or 'get-together.' For instance, "looking to do exercise three times this week, any days but from 6-8pm." Then the app can find people who are doing some kind of exercise but it might be three different people or whatever. So day 1 could be frisbee, day 2 could be jogging, day 3 could be someone looking for a lifting partner... whatever. Another example would be, "I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount." Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance.<br><br>Spam blocker. I don't want business to be all about trying to get me to 'get-together' at their establishment unless they truely have a special deal. I know every bar in the city has a happy hour from 5-7, I don't need thrillist or what-have-you to send me an email pointing out the obvious. Time. There is no app mentioned above to help manage and organize time. There is a difference between saying, “I want to see a movie this week” and “I want to see a movie tonight” and “I want to see a movie right now.” Some kind of dynamic calendar app would be good.

Scope and flexibility. Allow for people to create non-specific events or 'get-together.' For instance, “looking to do exercise three times this week, any days but from 6-8pm.” Then the app can find people who are doing some kind of exercise but it might be three different people or whatever. So day 1 could be frisbee, day 2 could be jogging, day 3 could be someone looking for a lifting partner… whatever. Another example would be, “I want to be entertained on Friday night around 9pm, my budget is X amount.” Then the app could find an off broadway show that is having a groupon deal or it could point out that that date is the first Friday of the month and MOMA has free entrance.

Spam blocker. I don't want business to be all about trying to get me to 'get-together' at their establishment unless they truely have a special deal. I know every bar in the city has a happy hour from 5-7, I don't need thrillist or what-have-you to send me an email pointing out the obvious.

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